As we close in on last bit necessary to finally ship Total War, here’s another piece of the starting OB for your perusal. The .pdf link below shows the Soviet Conditional Reinforcement events that govern how the initial Soviet Unreliable Baltic Units and Soviet Disorganized Fortifications work.
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HMS/GRD returns Europa to its roots and revisits the best selling Europa title Fire in the East. The new game covers the same time period as the older ones (summer of 1941 to the spring of 1942) but uses a completely new Soviet OB, a new map, and the latest rules for the Europa system. Buyer's who preorder Total War will also receive the Red Army from September, 1939 to March, 1942 in preparation for Grand Europa. Total War gives the Axis player the opportunity to see if he can improve on the massive offensive that pocketed and captured millions of Soviet soldiers. Can you take Moscow or Leningrad? Or are you condemned to suffer the Soviet winter short of victory. The Soviet player must build a strategic reserve large enough to stop the advancing Axis forces and throw them out of Russia.The Soviet player is aided by massive reinforcements that allow him to form new defensive lines in an attempt to slow down or stop the Axis armor thrusts. Published counters will be the same high quality counters players expect from HMS/GRD. Total War is a historical game on the German invasion of the Soviet Union, from summer 1941 to spring 1942. It charts the titanic struggle of the largest ground campaign in World War II, from the Axis offensives that brought the Germans to the gates of Moscow to the Soviet winter counteroffensive that hurled them back. Total War is a two-player game. One side controls the forces of Germany and its allies while the other controls the forces of the Soviet Union. The maps cover Eastern Europe and the western USSR from the Arctic Ocean to the Black Sea, from the plains of Poland to the steppes along the Volga River. Ground units represent corps, divisions, brigades, regiments, and battalions. Air units represent groups of 40 to 80 aircraft. Naval units represent task forces of warships.
Total War is a complete remake and updating of the classic Europa game, Fire in the East. The game's Soviet order of battle makes extensive use of formerly secret Kremlin information on the Red Army forces that fought the war. The game includes a Soviet order of battle for all of the USSR from 1939 to 1942 and is the most comprehensive game OB ever published on the Red Army in peace and war. The Axis order of battle also is updated, reflecting new research since the publication of Fire in the East. The rules for Total War incorporate the latest rules for the Europa system, with on-demand air power, armor effects, combined arms, and much more, recreating both the German blitzkrieg that captured entire Soviet armies and the Soviet deep operations that nearly splintered the invaders in the depth of the Russian winter. The price is $234. |
I think consequentially should be consequently in the Estonian paragraph and I see no logic to your use of abbreviations or truncations, sometimes you use them, sometimes not. Do you have a writing style guide you follow?
In SG1 procedure, should we be comparing units to REs of units, or REs of units to REs of units? I would assume the latter but that is not what it says. Also, does one apply all modifiers if applicable or just one — I would assume, all, but it doesn’t say.
Well…it’s been a month, what progress has been made on that “last bit”?
Another month gone with still no word. Waiting…….
It’ll be in your “Home before the leaves fall…” …. well, that’s what we were told last year …
Any news?
Another month gone. What are these “last bits” and what is still to be done?
So it’s now over a year ago that the message appeared that the game would be shipped within an eight week window. That’s the same period that’s passed since the last update. I really wonder what is happening, and why the game can’t be shipped, or why it is impossible to give a shipping deadline that the guys can stick to. What’s the cause of these continuous delays? Why are there no updates, eventhough they were promised? Come on!
So you have the time to screen the comments that are posted but not provide an update to everyone that’s waiting for this game, and asking for an update.
No updates.
No samples.
No progress???
Two months???
No hope???
I hope I’m wrong, but guys a crumb???
Begging for any news..
Two months without an update. Come on guys… Please?
Are you still working on the electronic version of the game ?
anybody out there really expecting to see this game in 2014???..for those who have
paid upfront..I hope so..I got my $$ back three years ago..and still ..no game..
you guys are a patient lot..I’ll say that for you..here’s hoping..
I just realized that on 22 June the latest shipping estimate was about 4-5 weeks after the post was made (late July shipping). That’s already 2 and a half months ago. I think we’re now about 16 weeks later, and no indication is given on when the game will ship. If I’m really pesimistic I would say that it took 7 months for the estimate to drop from 8 to 4 weeks, so that would give a shipping date somehwere in february next year for the remaining 4 weeks estimated.
If this seems cynical, that’s not my intention. I want HMS to understand they are a business, and they should put customer needs central to their mission if they want any chance of succes in the future. That means say what you do and do what you say. At the moment I feel this is missing and I would urge HMS to change this as soon as possible for all our sake.
As of today, it’s now been two full months since your late update on the status of TW. Isn’t it about time to let us know what’s happening to this game??
Another fortnight passes. Why can’t you list out what’s still to be done if you really are on the “last bits”? You are losing what little goodwill still exists out here.
I, the web guy, do the screening. No updates though, which is annoying. — Mitch
Mitch, a lot of these comments reflect really poorly on HMS and are undoubtedly eroding confidence in the product . Can’t you remove them?
Todd, the comments are justified. I’d like some news of what’s up as much as any of these guys. Arthur can edit the comments, as needed. — Mitch
I agree with Mitch. These comments are polite all things considering. I have been waiting for this game a long time too (I am #12 on the list) and would appreciate an update a bit more frequently than occurs.
Thanks, Bob
Todd, HMS’s lengthy silences reflect poorly on and erode confidence in HMS. It has nothing to do with whether Mitch removes comments or not.
Irt Todd: I think you miss the point. It’s not the comments here that reflect badly on HMS, but the way the company acts. If it says what it does, and does what it says, there will be no negative comments. Removing the comments made here will not help HMS, as the feelings expressed in them will remain in place and they are shared by a large group of (potential) HMS customers. These bad feelings are a threat to future HMS projects. This is why I press to put the customer in the centre of HMS’ mission to finally turn this around.
Unfortunately we are long past believing anything other than actually receiving the game. I think it’s time for an HONEST statement of whether this game will ever be published. The “Pre-Publication Plan” still posted on this web site is dated over FIVE years ago. C’mon, guys, it’s time to let your extremely patient fans and loyal customers know what’s REALLY going to happen.
It has been since November 2006 when my game was ordered. There is zero reason for all of these delays and no comments, updates ect. I am done send my money back and if the game ever does come out I will see if it is worthwhile to buy at that time.
Chet
HMS,
Are you still in business? Are you planning on releasing the game before I retire or should I seek a refund?
Whatever your personal issues, there is no excuse for not at least keeping us informed.
Several years ago, I bet Todd that TW would be out by Christmas or I’d bring a bottle of Port and a mince pie to his house on Boxing Day.
I lost in 2012.
I lost in 2013.
This year Todd said he’d provide the Port and mince. So, I succeeded in starting a Christmas tradition with a friend, which is more than I can say for HMSGRD!
Todd, it’s the endless delays and silences that have eroded confidence in the company, not anything posted here or elsewhere. Anyone with the slightest interest in wargames already knows that HMSGRD have repeatedly, over a number of years now, failed to finish the game on the timescale that they themselves have posted. When on the multiple occasions they promised shipping by the end of month x, the very least they could have done is update their customers early in month y. The printing problems excuse has been trotted out too often to be credible, and anyway from the rare extracts of the OBs and rules that have been uploaded we can be certain that the game was definitely not ready for printing on the several dates when they said it was – because we can see that they’re still making changes. HMS needs to publish, or if they can’t, for whatever reason, they need to get back what value they can for themselves and their investors and sell the remaining assets of the company to someone else who can. I only hope that the current silence is because they’re negotiating with a potential buyer now. If they’re not, then they should be.
August 9th since the last update? Really?!?!?! Come on guys, throw some “update” crumbs our way.
I noticed that you are still actively promoting a “pre-publication” offer for Total War on your website. In light of the years of delays, excuses and infrequent communication, I think continuing to provide this offer is very misleading to those that might happen upon your site unaware of the situation.
Unless you can provide an actual date for publication, please act in an ethical manner and remove this offer from your site.
It’s now 10 years since HMS/GRD formed and 5 years since the first whispers of things being sent to the mysterious printers began. And now… what?
If a regular drip-feed of components in digital format had been posted here back then, we’d all have collected enough to print our own copy at home by now.
At least then we’d have *something* to show for our purchase and patience.
When will this game be available? I would like to buy two copies.